Why Baptist?
"Why do you feel the need to hang a shingle above the name “Christian” like baptist, IFB, etc.? Where are these titles supported in the Scriptures? "
This question was posted on the poll I have on the site. This question is asked with only modern church knowledge involved. Because if this person where to study just the least bit of Church History (and not the Catholic so called church), this person would see the need to hang a "shingle" over our heads.
Real quick, names like Baptist and Ana-Baptist where hung on certain groups of believers by people who where persecuting them!!!! So I consider it an HONOR to attend a Baptist Church because of the sacrifice men and women have paid because they would not bend on their belief in Jesus and what the Bible says.
If you would like to know more about Baptist history go to http://www.ifbpreaching.com/baptist_history.html
and listen to Jeff Faggart and others teach some real Church history!
ybiC, William
posted by William @ 4:59 AM
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4 Comments:
I have had to deal with this issue as well. I found an article that does a fairly good job at it and I have added my comments.
http://www.mavmin.org/page8.html
It was stated on the IFB blog that my questions were posted with only modern church knowledge involved. I really don’t understand this assertion. Then further prejudices surfaced as my knowledge of church history was called into question. No William, I’m not Catholic either. It saddens me that you felt the need to attack, rather than teach. You didn’t even go to the effort of supporting your comments using the scriptures. You only referred to man-made doctrinal history. According to your, contention we should all be Jewish. They were persecuted more than anyone. The knowledge I based my questions on is a letter I have read by a guy named Paul. He wrote this letter to help an up and coming church to stay scripturally on the right track. Have you read it? It is called 1 Corinthians. It is in the New Testament. The part I’m referring to is 1 Corinthians 1: 10-17. If you haven’t, I urge you to do so. You’re right, I don’t have an in-depth knowledge of baptist church history. But I would say relatively, that the baptist church would be “modern church knowledge” in comparison to the examples of churches in the New Testament. I would call that the real church history. I do hope William has the courage to post an opposing comment on his blog and support his comments with the Bible.
I attend a Fundamental Independent Baptist Church and I would like to briefly answer your question about the use of the word "Baptist". First I would like to say that this is not a denomination. Since there is no denominational machine at work our church is "independent" as the New Testament teaches churches should be. "Fundamental" simply means that we are a church that points back to the fact that we hold to the teaches of the New Testament as set forth in the Bible without ajustments for modern man. The word "Baptist" indicates the basic truths that we hold to as a fellowship of Believers. These include two ordinances--Baptism & the Lord's Supper--only; Salvation by grace through faith in Christ without admixture of works to attain or maintain it; the virgin birth of Jesus Christ; the diety of Jesus Christ; the autonomy of the local Church; the Godhead Father, Son, and Holy Spirit united as One; etc. Just as "Catholic" before church does not mean universal but it means the fellowship hold to such teachings as transubstantiation; sacraments; prayer to saints; the diety and redemptive work of Mary; a modern priesthood; etc. These words "Baptist", "Catholic", "Church of Christ", etc. simply serve to inform the person thinking of attending the fellowship it describes of their doctrinal stand. This was not necessary during the New Testament for the most part because there were no organizations claiming to be Christian that held diametrically opposed views of the means of salvation, etc. As these things began to develop we know that they were given tags to indicate their doctrinal views to the general public such as Gnostics & Judeaizers and let us not forget the Pharisees and Saducees who were so labeled because of the strict adherance to the law of one and the rejection of the spirit world by the other. This is not a new phenomena and not unbiblical. It is our fellowship's way of being honest to the public about what we believe and allowing them to decide if they are willing to be exposed to these teachings from their very first encounter with our church.
I don’t understand why the advocates of the title “baptist” on this website haven’t supported there claims with the Bible (Chapter & Verse). Is anyone reading the actual question(s) put forth. That’s right there were two question. Maybe I should propose a third. If you met me on the street and I asked you what religion you were, what would you say? Baptist or Christian? That is what we should be thinking about. Also we should support these thoughts with God’s word. Not with mans limited wisdom. I hope you can look past your doctrine to your Bibles.
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